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  • 07-15-2008 3:21 AM

    • dazzler
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    Study Plan - 28 days to go before my R&S Lab

    Hi All,

    I now have 28 days left before sitting my R&S exam in Brussels.

    Over past six months I have done the following:

    - Advanced Technologies Class-On-Demand

    - Advanced Technologies Audio

    - R&S Lab workbook I/II/III

    - R&S Boot camp

    - R&S Mock labs x 5

    I was looking for a bit of advice on my study plan for my final 28 days.  I feel relatively comfortable with CORE technologies and my weakest areas are probably QOS/Multicast and some security/IP Services.  I am also pretty confident with navigating the DOC CD config guides and command references for my weak areas. 

    I do have two weeks off work prior to my exam and therefore my plan was as follows:

    - Advanced Technologies Class-On-Demand (again)

    - 5 x selected Labs from WBII (say Lab 1,8,9,10,11) as many times as I can.

    -  R&S Boot camp Class-on-demand

     

    What do you think?   Would you suggest anything different?

    Regards,

     

     

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  • 07-15-2008 4:07 AM In reply to

    • mlaporte
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    Re: Study Plan - 28 days to go before my R&S Lab

    Hi,

    How did you do on your Mock Labs?

    Why do the Class-on-Demands again? If so, I would suggest to do your weak areas only.

    Do some VOL3 labs (5,6,7,8) for speed and accuracy. If you book rack time, try to do two in a 5.5hr time slot.Try to go for 2.5-3 hours per lab.

    Do some VOL2 labs (diff 7, 8)... Also, read the VOL2 solutions guide, breakdown, pitfalls, etc.

    Work the DOCCD on your weak areas.

    Marc

     

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  • 07-15-2008 4:28 AM In reply to

    Re: Study Plan - 28 days to go before my R&S Lab

    Do following labs recommend by Brain : 

    1) Workbook II :

    1 , 2 , 3 , 4 , 5 , 10 , 12 , 16 , 17 , 18.

    2) Go through COD of R&S bootcamp

    3) Read QOS and Multicast topics from DOCCD

    4) DO 3 or 4 Labs from Workbook IE - III specially redistribution part (if you have time) 

    5) If you have any other vendor workbook then take their labs as mock labs do not do every labs , take 2 or 3 labs so you can feel different topology/Diagram/question.

    6) Make your own bootcamp for example use COD of R&S bootcamp (just like a 12 day bootcamp) and use new version of IE WEB-1 (v-5) side by side. spend some time technology specific questions 

     

     

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  • 07-15-2008 6:01 AM In reply to

    • dazzler
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    RE: Study Plan - 28 days to go before my R&S Lab

    Marc,
     
    Thanks for the reply.
    My Mock Lab scores are between 61 & 77.
     
    Amit,
     
    Thanks to you as well.
     
    Regards,
     

        Darren

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    From: ccie-rs-gen@ieoc.com [mailto:ccie-rs-gen@ieoc.com] On Behalf Of amit chopra
    Sent: 15 July 2008 12:31
    To: Crosby,D,Darren,JRS1X R
    Subject: Re: [CCIE R&S General] Study Plan - 28 days to go before my R&S Lab

    Do following labs recommend by Brain : 

    1) Workbook II :

    1 , 2 , 3 , 4 , 5 , 10 , 12 , 16 , 17 , 18.

    2) Go through COD of R&S bootcamp

    3) Read QOS and Multicast topics from DOCCD

    4) DO 3 or 4 Labs from Workbook IE - III specially redistribution part (if you have time) 

    5) If you have any other vendor workbook then take their labs as mock labs do not do every labs , take 2 or 3 labs so you can feel different topology/Diagram/question.

    6) Make your own bootcamp for example use COD of R&S bootcamp (just like a 12 day bootcamp) and use new version of IE WEB-1 (v-5) side by side. spend some time technology specific questions 

     

     



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    Hi,

    How did you do on your Mock Labs?

    Why do the Class-on-Demands again? If so, I would suggest to do your weak areas only.

    Do some VOL3 labs (5,6,7,8) for speed and accuracy. If you book rack time, try to do two in a 5.5hr time slot.Try to go for 2.5-3 hours per lab.

    Do some VOL2 labs (diff 7, 8)... Also, read the VOL2 solutions guide, breakdown, pitfalls, etc.

    Work the DOCCD on your weak areas.

    Marc

     



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    Hi All,

    I now have 28 days left before sitting my R&S exam in Brussels.

    Over past six months I have done the following:

    - Advanced Technologies Class-On-Demand

    - Advanced Technologies Audio

    - R&S Lab workbook I/II/III

    - R&S Boot camp

    - R&S Mock labs x 5

    I was looking for a bit of advice on my study plan for my final 28 days.  I feel relatively comfortable with CORE technologies and my weakest areas are probably QOS/Multicast and some security/IP Services.  I am also pretty confident with navigating the DOC CD config guides and command references for my weak areas. 

    I do have two weeks off work prior to my exam and therefore my plan was as follows:

    - Advanced Technologies Class-On-Demand (again)

    - 5 x selected Labs from WBII (say Lab 1,8,9,10,11) as many times as I can.

    -  R&S Boot camp Class-on-demand

     

    What do you think?   Would you suggest anything different?

    Regards,

     

     




    Internetwork Expert - The Industry Leader in CCIE Preparation
    http://www.internetworkexpert.com

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  • 07-15-2008 9:28 PM In reply to

    Re: Study Plan - 28 days to go before my R&S Lab

    How long is it taking you to do a full scale lab? Also have you done any
    of the mock labs?

    Brian Dennis, CCIEx5 #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP/Voice)
    bdennis@internetworkexpert.com

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    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "dazzler"
    Sent: Tue, July 15, 2008 3:21
    Subject: [CCIE R&S General] Study Plan - 28 days to go before my R&S Lab






    Hi All,
    I now have 28 days left before sitting my R&S exam in Brussels.
    Over past six months I have done the following:
    - Advanced Technologies Class-On-Demand
    - Advanced Technologies Audio
    - R&S Lab workbook I/II/III
    - R&S Boot camp
    - R&S Mock labs x 5
    I was looking for a bit of advice on my study plan for my final 28 days.
    I feel relatively comfortable with CORE technologies and my weakest areas
    are probably QOS/Multicast and some security/IP Services. I am also
    pretty confident with navigating the DOC CD config guides and command
    references for my weak areas.
    I do have two weeks off work prior to my exam and therefore my plan was as
    follows:
    - Advanced Technologies Class-On-Demand (again)
    - 5 x selected Labs from WBII (say Lab 1,8,9,10,11) as many times as I can.
    - R&S Boot camp Class-on-demand

    What do you think? Would you suggest anything different?
    Regards,




    Internetwork Expert - The Industry Leader in CCIE Preparation

    http://www.internetworkexpert.com



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    Brian Dennis, CCIE5 #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP/Voice)
    bdennis@internetworkexpert.com

    Internetwork Expert, Inc.
    http://www.InternetworkExpert.com
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  • 07-16-2008 12:04 AM In reply to

    • dazzler
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    RE: Study Plan - 28 days to go before my R&S Lab

    Hi Brian,

    Have done 5 x IE Mock Labs scoring between 61-77. Taking about 4-5
    hours for one of the easier labs and maybe the full 8 hours for the more
    difficult labs (This time doesn't include verification time).

    Regards,


    Darren
    Darren Crosby | Enterprise Solutions | Enterprise Solutions Designer |
    Service Design | BT Global Services | Tel:+44 (0)1977 592530 | Fax: +44
    (0)1977 592455 | E: darren.crosby@bt.com | www.bt.com/uk


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    Brian Dennis
    Sent: 16 July 2008 05:32
    To: Crosby,D,Darren,JRS1X R
    Subject: Re: [CCIE R&S General] Study Plan - 28 days to go before my R&S
    Lab

    How long is it taking you to do a full scale lab? Also have you done any
    of the mock labs? Brian Dennis, CCIEx5 #2210
    (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP/Voice) bdennis@internetworkexpert.com
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    Original Message ----- From: "dazzler" Sent: Tue, July 15, 2008 3:21
    Subject: [CCIE R&S General] Study Plan - 28 days to go before my R&S Lab
    Hi All, I now have 28 days left before sitting my R&S exam in Brussels.
    Over past six months I have done the following: - Advanced Technologies
    Class-On-Demand - Advanced Technologies Audio - R&S Lab workbook
    I/II/III - R&S Boot camp - R&S Mock labs x 5 I was looking for a bit of
    advice on my study plan for my final 28 days. I feel relatively
    comfortable with CORE technologies and my weakest areas are probably
    QOS/Multicast and some security/IP Services. I am also pretty confident
    with navigating the DOC CD config guides and command references for my
    weak areas. I do have two weeks off work prior to my exam and therefore
    my plan was as follows: - Advanced Technologies Class-On-Demand (again)
    - 5 x selected Labs from WBII (say Lab 1,8,9,10,11) as many times as I
    can. - R&S Boot camp Class-on-demand What do you think? Would you
    suggest anything different? Regards, Internetwork Expert - The Industry
    Leader in CCIE Preparation http://www.internetworkexpert.com
    Subscription information may be found at:
    http://www.ieoc.com/forums/ForumSubscriptions.aspx


    Internetwork Expert - The Industry Leader in CCIE Preparation

    http://www.internetworkexpert.com

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    may be found at:

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  • 08-18-2008 5:41 PM In reply to

    Re: RE: Study Plan - 28 days to go before my R&S Lab

    Dazzler,

    You created this post over 28 days ago. So you've passed the lab and are living in CCIE heavan! 

    Can you re-visit this post and talk about your study strategy leading up to the test and whether or not you thought it was effective. I have 21 days left, wish me luck.

     

    Thanks,

    Tour

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  • 08-19-2008 1:27 AM In reply to

    • dazzler
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    Re: RE: Study Plan - 28 days to go before my R&S Lab

    Hi All,

    Before starting on my last 28-days of study I personally felt pretty confident with the CORE Technologies as I was completing the WBIII Labs in about 2-3 hours.  I had also completed five IE Mock Labs scoring between 61-77.  This made me feel that I was nearly ready and that I should use the last 28-days as a period of revision/practice rather than learning brand new technologies. 

    My last month of study started by me completing the R&S Bootcamp Class-on-Demand (5-Day) again.  I had done the Bootcamp back in April and found that working through the bootcamp a second time was useful as a kind of revision tool.  I found that I could now answer a lot of the questions without referring to any documentation, which was a great confidence booster.  On the reverse side I found that I had forgotten how to resolve a few questions in the bootcamp so this highlighted a few areas where I knew I needed to research more.

    After the bootcamp I used the Cisco DOCCD and also the excellent "R&S Advanced Technologies Class-on-Demand v4.5" to study my weak areas, which in my case happened to be Multicast, QOS, Security plus a few IP Services.  It had been about 5 months since I last looked at the Class-On-Demand and what I found was that watching it a second time around made me realize that I had not initially fully taken in everything Brian/Brian had been talking about on certain technologies.  Watching it a 2nd time around helped solidify my understanding of my weak subjects.

    With about two weeks to go I completed WBII Labs 1,8,9 in their entirety and also read through every question and every answer of every other Lab in WBII.  This was both a useful revision exercise and also a chance to do some practice labs again.  I was finding at this stage that I was remembering the answers to a lot of the questions in the Labs and could complete them in my head without configuring any live routers.

    With about 4 days to go before my exam I actually hit a brick wall.  I had been studying 8-10 hours a day before an after work and during my time off work I was studying maybe 15 hours a day.  I think my buffers in my head had become full and my personal decision was take some time out to relax.  I actually took some time out to play golf, go the gym or maybe swim during the day and do some light reading/revision in the evenings for a few hours.  I did this because I felt prepared.

    One more thing to mention was that during my last four weeks I also skimmed through my trusty old "Cisco Cookbook by O'Reilly".  My book is probably about 5 years old and some of the information in the book is slightly outdated, but I found it very useful to jog my memory on my weak areas.  The beauty of the Cookbook is you can turn to a specific recipe and read through between 2-4 pages that provide you with a configuration example and explanation.

    So that was it.  I appreciate that my method of preparing will be different to a lot of others, but found that the above worked for me.  It is the hard work during my initial 5 months of studying that got me to a point where I felt I had a good chance of passing the exam.

    The most important thing I learnt from my exam experience was that verification is absolutely vital.  I completed the Lab in about 4.5 hours barring a few questions that I didn't fully know the answer to and then spent the best part of 2 hours reading through every question again and checking every one of my configuration answers.  My verification enabled me to spot that I had made some really simple mistakes or maybe where I had broken some rules of earlier questions.  If I had not verified every single question in the exam then I fell that I may well have failed. 

    Fortunately for me at 2.15 am the next morning I received my CCIE Number and knew that all the hard graft had paid off.  More importantly I now feel a much better Networking Engineer as I feel as though I understand the R&S Technologies in much more detail.  It is not only the CCIE Number that you are after it is as Brian quotes "Internetworkexpert wants you to become a CCIE as a result of being an expert", so thank you to IE for making me a better engineer.

    Hope this may help someone out there.  Good Luck to you all.

     

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  • 08-19-2008 8:33 AM In reply to

    • Optimus
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    Re: RE: Study Plan - 28 days to go before my R&S Lab

    Hi dazzler, congratulations on your success.

    How long did it take you from when you started to study for the CCIE till passing the lab?

     

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  • 08-20-2008 1:19 PM In reply to

    Re: RE: Study Plan - 28 days to go before my R&S Lab

    Thanks for the detailed information Dazzler! Congrats on your success!

     

    Thanks,

    Tour

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