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  • 07-13-2008 9:44 PM In reply to

    RE: Welcome to CCIE R&S General

    Likely it will vary greatly based on what your background is and how much free time you have to dedicate to studying!
     
    Back in my day, we didn't have the CCNA.  It was 0 to CCIE.  Well, actually that was more Brian Dennis.  They created the CCNA/NP in 1998, which was in the middle of my CCIE prep, so I wasn't going to switch gears and interrupt my thinking!  :)   But either way, my first CCIE was a SOLID 1 year of prep time.  That's an obscene amount of hours and absolutely zero social life.  That was also with a healthy background of knowledge (vast collection of useless knowledge!).
     
    :)
     
    In a more "normalized" world (e.g. a pace not destined for heart attack and/or family dissolution) I can certainly see 4-6 years being a more sane pace!  But everyone's circumstances are different.
     
    So when people come along with multiple CCIE's in 18 months, don't feel inadequate or anything!  Your own pace fits with your own circumstances, and it is what it is!
     
    Cheers,
     


    Scott Morris, CCIE4 #4713, JNCIE-M #153, JNCIS-ER, CISSP, et al.
    CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-ER
    Senior CCIE Instructor

    smorris@internetworkexpert.com

     

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    From: ccie-rs-gen@ieoc.com [mailto:ccie-rs-gen@ieoc.com] On Behalf Of abebae
    Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 12:01 AM
    To: smorris@internetworkexpert.com
    Subject: Re: [CCIE R&S General] Welcome to CCIE R&S General

    from start to finish (ccna) to (ccie) just wondering how long it took for some of the people here? because im hoping to hear 5-6 years :) a reply would be appreciated.  i just wanted to know what is possible even though it doesnt matter.




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  • 07-13-2008 11:15 PM In reply to

    • Rob
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    Re: Welcome to CCIE R&S General

    I think Scott has a good point, as it will be different based on peoples experience and time to study.

     

    I would say 200hrs from scratch for CCNA, 500 for CCNP from there, and maybe 500-1000hrs from there to CCIE.  Granted, these are just random numbers I am pulling from the air here ;), but those are some pretty excepted timeframes I think.  So, figure how many hrs a week you can set aside, and go from there.

     

    Working with Cisco on the job will obviously help too, and should cut down on some of those hours :D

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  • 07-14-2008 12:32 AM In reply to

    • kebram
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    RE: Welcome to CCIE R&S General

    I agree with scott on this. It all depands on the circumstance u find urself in.

    Kabir Ibrahim Kabir.
    B.sc,MCP,CCNA,CCDA,CCDP,CCNP.
     


    --- On Sun, 7/13/08, Scott Morris <bounce-Scott_Morris@ieoc.com> wrote:
    From: Scott Morris <bounce-Scott_Morris@ieoc.com>
    Subject: RE: [CCIE R&S General] Welcome to CCIE R&S General
    To: kebram2003@yahoo.com
    Date: Sunday, July 13, 2008, 9:46 PM

    Likely it will vary greatly based on what your background is and how much free time you have to dedicate to studying!
     
    Back in my day, we didn't have the CCNA.  It was 0 to CCIE.  Well, actually that was more Brian Dennis.  They created the CCNA/NP in 1998, which was in the middle of my CCIE prep, so I wasn't going to switch gears and interrupt my thinking!  :)   But either way, my first CCIE was a SOLID 1 year of prep time.  That's an obscene amount of hours and absolutely zero social life.  That was also with a healthy background of knowledge (vast collection of useless knowledge!).
     
    :)
     
    In a more "normalized" world (e.g. a pace not destined for heart attack and/or family dissolution) I can certainly see 4-6 years being a more sane pace!  But everyone's circumstances are different.
     
    So when people come along with multiple CCIE's in 18 months, don't feel inadequate or anything!  Your own pace fits with your own circumstances, and it is what it is!
     
    Cheers,
     


    Scott Morris, CCIE4 #4713, JNCIE-M #153, JNCIS-ER, CISSP, et al.
    CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-ER
    Senior CCIE Instructor

    smorris@internetworkexpert.com

     

    Internetwork Expert, Inc.
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    Knowledge is power.
    Power corrupts.
    Study hard and be Eeeeviiiil......


    From: ccie-rs-gen@ieoc.com [mailto:ccie-rs-gen@ieoc.com] On Behalf Of abebae
    Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 12:01 AM
    To: smorris@internetworkexpert.com
    Subject: Re: [CCIE R&S General] Welcome to CCIE R&S General

    from start to finish (ccna) to (ccie) just wondering how long it took for some of the people here? because im hoping to hear 5-6 years :) a reply would be appreciated.  i just wanted to know what is possible even though it doesnt matter.




    Internetwork Expert - The Industry Leader in CCIE Preparation
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    Kabir K Ibrahim

    Bsc CCNA CCNP CCDA CCDP

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  • 07-14-2008 1:20 PM In reply to

    • abebae
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    Re: RE: Welcome to CCIE R&S General

    Little bit in a pickle.  I am confused weather i should learn programming languages php, c#/c++, perl, java etc etc.. or just fully dedicate my time to lan/wan environment. or do i just learn it on the way while i am studying for these certifications? anyone care to clear that up? thanks :)

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  • 07-14-2008 2:13 PM In reply to

    Re: RE: Welcome to CCIE R&S General

    I originally started in programming, but gave it up after I found out what the employment options were in the long run.  Also I never really enjoyed it once I got deep into the specifics.  It depends on what you enjoy.  If you really like programming there are lots of opportunities; the same with networking.  What really sold me on networking was when I too a CS-100 course in college that featured business professionals from different aspects of the field coming in and lecturing about what they did.  Also I had a background in networking from high school working on the BBS there as well ;)
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    abebae wrote:

    Little bit in a pickle.  I am confused weather i should learn programming languages php, c#/c++, perl, java etc etc.. or just fully dedicate my time to lan/wan environment. or do i just learn it on the way while i am studying for these certifications? anyone care to clear that up? thanks :)




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  • 07-16-2008 8:42 AM In reply to

    • dworth
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    Re: Welcome to CCIE R&S General

    I justed wanted to say,  I love the new look!

     

    Dennis

    Dennis Worth

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  • 08-21-2008 9:00 AM In reply to

    • tigerplug
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    Re: Welcome to CCIE R&S General

    Loving it!

     

    I hope to go from scratch to CCIE (achieving CCNA and CCNP on the way) over the next while.

    Theres a chance that I may loose my job in the coming months. If I do, I'm not going back to work without the CCIE :) !

     

     

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  • 08-21-2008 9:07 AM In reply to

    • tigerplug
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    Re: Welcome to CCIE R&S General

    Dear God - that last post sounds awful....

     

    What I meant to say is I have a reasonable amount of knowledge and am determined to get certified. Been reading alot of stuff over the last few months.

     

    Need to get a physical home lab now to improve on the dynamips setup that I have.

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  • 11-15-2008 2:15 AM In reply to

    • Berlin31
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    Re: RE: Welcome to CCIE R&S General

    Abebae

    To your first question: I have met people who went straight for the CCIE (Which from Cisco's standpoint is fully allowed, ccna and ccnp are not needed first) and I have met other like me who have done the ccna and ccnp first. If you are a person with top grades from school, I would go straight for the CCIE. I'm more of an average grade type and felt more comfortable with going via ccna and ccnp.

    I studied for the ccna and ccnp in my spare time while working in the Networking arena, also doing the courses from training companies.

    The ccna took me about 6 months and the ccnp about 1 year to complete, with hobbies and family still going.

    The ccie is a whole different "ballgame", since I started studying for the ccie written it has been 2 years now. I did the written test in about 8 months time and made my first attempt on the Lab 4 months later. I failed big time, but 6 months later I found Internetworkexpert end to end. In 3 months time putting hobbies and most other things aside I have gained so much more knowledge.

    I used a different self study vendor before IE. Those who complain about errors in the solution guide should see the solution of other vendors. IE has far less errors (if any) in their guides.

    About your second question: I have a colleague at work, he is a double CCIE and good at programming, he's around 30 - 35. He's one of our smartest and involved in many projects. I studied programming at school to, but felt that it was too much to keep up both programming and networking.

    I hope this helps in your decision

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  • 11-25-2008 12:29 AM In reply to

    • delf.gu
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    Re: Welcome to CCIE R&S General

    I love it ,

    I want to a really CCIE with securty

    i'm Chinese, so my English is poor , how to study in the forums

    i want to made friends in the here .my msn:gufujia@hotmail.com

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